Reclaiming Your Intuitive Power - From Cult Escape to Spiritual Self Expression with Jessie Shedden

Are you always looking outside of yourself for the right answers? Do you sign up with the next program or the next coach looking for “the thing”...

Are you always looking outside of yourself for the right answers? Do you sign up with the next program or the next coach looking for “the thing” that will move you forward? In today’s episode Jessie Sheddon, spiritual lightworker and legend revealing coach, shares her courageous story from escaping a controlling religious cult to discovering her channelling abilities. She shares how chickens taught her her first lessons in unconditional love and her struggle figuring out who she was as a spiritual being. Jessie discusses her journey back to trusting herself, healing her intuitive voice and her experience to create a powerful impact in the world.

In this episode we chat about:

Jessie's childhood in a strict religious cult.

Overcoming psychological abuse and the fear of the outside world.

Chickens, unconditional love and spreading joy.

Journeying through grief after an extreme religious experience.

Moving from being religious, to atheist to a lightworker.

Embracing your spiritual connection.

Reconnecting to your inner self.

Owning your story.

And so much more!

Jessie Shedden is a British-Australian chicken-loving, cult-escaping badass, who has been featured in the BBC, The Daily Express, and The Sun Newspaper, is a sought-after speaker and inspirational author of her memoir and sequel Tomorrow’s Not Promised, Make Today Count and the Fluffybutt Love series.

Jessie is a Girl Legend Revealer - helping women own their worth so they can discover their inner talent and create a life on their own terms. With bucketloads of first-hand real-life experience and a down to earth genuine approach, she shortcuts the route to confidence and success for ambitious women who seek freedom and independence and are ready to seize the moment.

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Timestamps:

(03:45) Jessie shares her story of growing up in a strict religious cult where she always felt like she didn’t belong. Taking the courageous step to leave everything she knew and escape.

(06:15) Experiencing the control of the cult and not being able to follow the rules.

(09:30) Overcoming the shock of the outside world and the fear of doom after the psychological abuse.

(10:57) Choosing between suicide or attempting a new life in the unknown.

(12:22) How chickens became an important part of Jessie’s connection to unconditional love, connection and safety .

(14:04) How the Fluffybutt Love series of books was born through Jessie’s connection with chickens.

(17:03) Learning to move forward through grief and bitterness from the religious experience. Agnostic, Atheist or Spiritual? Discovering she was a lightworker.

(20:20) Embracing the evolution of your healing and your spiritual connection.

(23:35) Overcoming the trauma and forced patriarchy that keeps you disconnected from your intuition and your inner self.

(26:45) Seeking outside guidance to succeed in business.

(27:40) How Jessie learned to trust herself and not to think that her coach had all the answers.

(29:44) Giving away your power and reminding yourself to come back to your authentic self.

(33:32) Sharing your personal story, owning it and having your own back.

(34:28) What it looks like to work with Jessie.

(36:41) Jessie shares her last words of wisdom around uplevelling who you are.

Transcript:

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

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SPEAKERS

Jessie Shedden, Paula Shepherd

Paula Shepherd 00:01

Hi, I'm Paula Shepherd, I went to college to get a good job and make a lot of money. Back then, no one talked about doing what you love. And while I successfully climbed the corporate ladder, I felt like there was something missing. So I left the seemingly comfortable corporate world at 40 years old for the freedom of full time entrepreneurship. Today, I get to help ambitious women go from entrepreneur to confident CEO of their lives and businesses. I created this podcast to share what I've learned with you to make your journey just a little easier, and to connect you with other incredible business owners who took a chance on themselves and who they are becoming. So whether you're just getting started, are all in for just want to hear a friendly voice. Come on in and sit with us. Now, let's dive in. Welcome to the confidence sessions. Oh, my goodness. Today, we're doing take two of this podcast. And what I mean by that is that this guest actually recorded an episode with me. Oh, gosh, back in fall of 2021. And something very strange happened with the recording, and it didn't actually record. And here we are months later, and she has just an amazing story and an evolution that's happened in that time. So it was certainly meant to be. Today I have with me Jessie Shedden. She is a British Australian chicken loving cult escaping badass. She's been featured in the BBC, The Daily Express in the Sun newspaper, she's a sought after speaker and inspirational author. And she has a memoir and a sequel of tomorrow's never promised make today count and the fluffy but love series. And you'll learn more about that a little later. Jesse is a girl legend. Revealer helping women own their worth so they can discover their inner talent and create a life on their own terms. Welcome to the podcast. Jesse.

Jessie Shedden 02:15

Thank you so much for having me. It's a real honour to be back here again.

Paula Shepherd 02:20

I know it's interesting that it's back here. And I remember your story was so I was I was on the edge of my seat the whole time that we were talking months ago. And when we chatted about getting you back on the podcast and doing a do over, you said, it's okay, because so much has happened since that time. It's almost as if it wasn't meant to err, then I needed to say this part too. So I'm so grateful to have you here.

Jessie Shedden 02:52

It's just awesome to be back because you said there is so much that has happened in between times. And I find myself repeatedly saying like, it just gets better. And it really does you think that you've kind of climaxed and then within a really short space of time you climax all over again. So yes, that was absolutely meant to be the way it has turned out.

Paula Shepherd 03:14

So back months ago, we talked a little bit about you not having a voice for 30 years, and your firsthand experience escaping your previous life. Just to find out that, that there were still issues that we're living outside of that experience. Would you mind sharing a little about how you grew up and how you essentially escaped that.

Jessie Shedden 03:45

So okay, so growing up, I spent the first 30 years of my life in a very strict religious cult. There was a number of determining things that you don't see in other cults I guess. We had no TV, no radio, women were not allowed to wear trousers, jeans, pants, whatever you want to call them. No jewellery, no makeup. There's all those it was a very patriarchal bordering on kind of Amish would be more or Mormon might be similar. And I guess over the years, I knew from about the age of eight, I just didn't really feel like those around me and I when I got into my 20s and realised that I had dyslexia I thought well, that's that's why I think differently. But it really was a lot more than that. And through my teens and 20s I felt strong and strong, but I just don't I don't belong here. I don't think like these people do I see my life going a different direction to the way they do. And I have to make some kind of move to leave, but I also know what I will lose. Because as with all cults, you would expect to be shunned by everybody in your social circles because they all belong back there, and including your family as well. And it took me, I, I first attempted to escape around the age of 18, I really didn't feel like I had the street smarts to be able to make it outside. And then I finally was able to do it at 30. And even then, it was traumatic. So anyway, I can really put it.

Paula Shepherd 05:35

So you thought about it when you were 18. And then it was 12 years later that you finally made it happen?

Jessie Shedden 05:43

Well, I thought about a 16 and then attempted 18.

Paula Shepherd 05:47

That's a really long time for you to continue to think and about the decision and what that would mean for you, and how you would have to let go of everything that you knew. What do you think changed between your first attempt at 18. And that 12 years later, when you actually made the firm decision that you were leaving,

Jessie Shedden 06:13

at this time, huge things that changed one was at school, I never really felt like I fit it. And, and that was even being homeschooled. I just really struggled. At work, I really felt like I flourished. And I learned far more at work than I ever did at school. So I started to find some confidence in my own abilities. And also being at work I started he had a little bit of access to the outside world. So that certainly helped. But the other one was, during that period of time, the when I made my attempt at to leave, I was subjected to house arrest, which meant that I was accountable for every minute of my time. I didn't go anywhere on my own. So even though I passed my driving test, there was always somebody with me in the car, if there wasn't I had to be accountable from the minute I left, the minute I arrived, they would know what time to expect me anything like that. And then I also felt that by the time I was 13, I was still living at home because you did until you got married. I was 30 I was living at home, I wasn't allowed to own a business, I didn't want to marry anybody. Any of the options that were available to me. I didn't feel that having a family was the right thing for me. But I knew I'd had no choice. And I'm still accountable for every minute of my time. And I could see other women, people going on with their lives. And I knew for myself if I was in a relationship by now it'd be married, I wouldn't be in my own home, being able to run it the way I wanted to run it and not be accountable for my time in the same way. And I just felt like although I'd spent those eight years doing my level best to strip away anything that made me different. And to conform to the very best of my abilities, which did a hell of a good job. I just felt suffocated like the the compounding layers of control, were just squeezing the life out of me. And it had gotten to the point. Because we'd also gone through as a family a period of pretty extensive bullying and personal attacks by those within the cult that left us with absolutely no way to turn and expecting How can I put it expecting it phone call knock at the door at any point of time of night or day in our own home, over the most trivial of things that would land us in trouble. And it was just like there's, there's no safe space, I have nowhere for my brain to go. I can't write in my journal freely because it will be gone through by excuse me by my family. There's no way for me to let out any of this pressure. And I'm just like a pressure cooker waiting to go off the valve is just hovering at the minute. And I'm looking at two options. I either I'm looking at a brick wall in front of me, which is suicide, or I take a chance at a new life. Wow.

Paula Shepherd 09:00

I think one of the things that I remember you talking about before that just really hit me now is you saying I was seeing all of these other people being able to live their lives. And in my mind when you're part of a cult, what we see on TV is these communes and everybody's living together and you can't escape and I'm imagining fences and nobody can get out. And that really wasn't the case. There was so much psychological manipulation that kept you where you were you were

Jessie Shedden 09:30

100% 100% so, you know, I still have some guilt now when I look at other people's experiences where they've grown up with very violent or, you know, physical trauma, and I think you know, ours wasn't really like that. It was all mental. And so the emotional bonds that they put on you were just but you can't see the scars perfect. You just expected that. You were told you were doomed. The minute you left you had first of all, you had no idea what was on the outside, you didn't know what you're really putting yourself, in fact, you know what you're going to lose. But you had no idea what was out there because nobody can tell you about it. Nobody was gonna tell you about it. Most of the people that are in there had always lived in there. There was no one to really be able to start to unbundle what your opportunities were outside of it. And you were told you're, you're always going to fail, you're going to end up you know, broke a drunk addict, you know, probably end up with cancer and die, you're bound to be diminished in some way.

Paula Shepherd 10:32

Wow. So how does someone who is essentially told this is your safe space? Who you intuitively really knew it wasn't your safe space? How do you find the courage to leave, not knowing how you're going to survive outside of everything that you knew?

Jessie Shedden 10:58

I think one of the best gifts is not knowing what would happen. And just knowing I have two options here, I have, you know, I end everything, or I have a go another life. And I can always end everything later if I have to, but I can't do it in the reverse. And then with the pressure of feeling that way, the pressure of my mother also having terminal cancer, and really being on her way out. And being very close to both my parents, I had to go and sit down with a counsellor and start to try and unbundle some of this, which is then where he put into words, what I had never, ever really wanted to admit to myself, even though it was my greatest desire was that I wanted to leave, because once I'd admitted it, I had to do something about it. And it's much easier to have a dream off there and distance and just bemoan the fact you're not ever reaching that goal, but not actually work on it.

Paula Shepherd 11:52

Wow. And that I think has helped you in so many ways, one of those ways. And while you have that relationship with the therapist, or you were going through that counselling, you also had this love for chickens wish, if anybody is looks at your social media feed or sees you speak, they know there's no doubt that you love chickens. What is the chicken love all about?

Jessie Shedden 12:22

They were super important, super important and still are in a world growing up that was very devoid of any kind of unconditional love. They were one source that no matter what happened, no matter what I thought what I wore what I did, what I maybe got into trouble over their love was always that this there was a lot of in a polarised religious world of things were either wrong, or they're right. They're black, or they're white, there's a lot of conditions on love that's given out and they just weren't a completely different source that when my solace, there were a place to go when there was nowhere else safe to go.

Paula Shepherd 13:07

Because they became essentially your pets right? In a place where you weren't allowed to have pets. That kind of love wasn't allowed.

Jessie Shedden 13:15

Right? Exactly, exactly. So another one of the crazy coat rules was yes, no pets at all. So the no cats no dogs, we were allowed rabbits, if we bred them and sold them. We're allowed chickens because they produced eggs. And that was that. And I was not supposed to form any emotional connection with them if they needed any veterinary care, and the thing that was never normally permitted. I was made to walk in inverted commas. Dump a couple of the roosters that I hatched because they didn't have a purpose. And so no, I was not expected to make any kind of emotional connection with them whatsoever.

Paula Shepherd 13:53

And yet you love them. You love them dearly. Now, they're a major part of our and Ryan, tell me about the fluffy but love series, because there's a connection there with chicken.

Jessie Shedden 14:04

That was really interesting. I hadn't expected that. During lockdown during our challenging couple of years of COVID There was this kind of space on the internet where I hang out, not surprisingly, in quite a number of chicken groups. And there was a lot of pain and frustration coming through in that period of time people needed somewhere to vent and to dump that. And so the group's became kind of quite unsafe places to be. And I was like, You know what? We all love swapping our stories about chickens, we love the inspiration. We love the healing. We love what we find in these animals, but you're having to hunt and peck your way through this. Just to pull these bits out on so that's what I want. Okay, all right. I want to combine these now into anthologies into books where people get that they get that emotional, rollercoaster the good, the bad, the sad, but they're not getting all the other stuff. That's going on in the current day, and that was where those two books came out of, and they're really a homage to, I lost my oldest one last year cuddle pot. And it was, it was really, it was a lot harder than I expected, she was six. And when I looked back, she was the only soul that and I know, this probably sounds crazy to anybody who's not in love with animals. But she was the only soul that had been there for me right through from, you know, moving house with my parents, through my mother's cancer through escaping through my mother's death, through a couple of really shitty relationships through a house move through getting engaged, or a country move. She was the only being that was consistent through all of that. And it felt like somebody that had really seen me and known me was now gone.

Paula Shepherd 15:54

But I think people feel that way, in general, when they take in a cat or a dog, right? But right, for you a chicken really was I mean, that is your pet, that's your love, that is that soul connection that you have, not just because of the type of animal, right? It's not about the type of animal, it's about the connection and the meaning and the memory behind it, as you just described, from, you know, your your mother being ill to, you know, her death and your escape, and not necessarily in that order, but all of these life changes and the evolution that you've been through. And now you're evolving even more so to not have this amazing soul, no matter, you know, how it's manifested itself as a chicken, or, you know, a dog or a cat or whatever that people typically understand, can be really challenging, because how do you move to that next thing, when this, this being was part of so many key elements of your life?

Jessie Shedden 17:02

Right, and I guess, like, I can look at it from the point of view that it was a provision that there was something there for that period of time. But as you say, it's in working through the bitter religious trauma, in the whole grief cycle of denial and anger and whichever order it comes up in, and the bitterness, and you know, really wanting to leave the one finger at God or whoever it is in the religious spectrum, and then kind of tiptoeing around tiptoeing into saying, or maybe I'm agnostic, because even that was a huge thing to say, because I was giving up everything I'd grown up and being taught and the judgement of even daring to look at it that way. And then finally going nowhere. Few I really actually want to be an atheist. I don't believe in anything, it's awful. And it's hard. And you know, you've done so much damage to my life. And then kind of coming out the other side and seeing the beauty that's available in maybe in the spiritual side and having, again, tiptoeing into that and thinking crikey, am I actually talking to, you know, an Akashic Record? Channel? Am I talking to mediums like, what am I doing here? Am I going to be judged as a thunderbolt going to come down from on high, and, and then getting comfortable with that, and finding, not just solace, but finding so much explanation for a lot of the things that had been going on for me, and that it always made a lot of sense for me, and people around me had kind of seen, but I hadn't, and I remember when, not that long ago, but since we did our previous recording. I had this message come through that, you know, can you wish it wasn't quite like this, but I see it now. It's like, can you actually wake up and accept the fact you are a light worker? Because you are and you're the only person that hasn't been seeing this? Which is like, okay, okay, like, really? Like, I felt like a whole different person waking up. And it's like, no, you're not a different person. You just actually see it now. And I remember saying to a couple of people, no, like you didn't know that before. And I'm like, You mean, you did? Like, could somebody have let me in on this? It was a really interesting experience to go through and then to find that onto the ability to channel but understanding that I had been channelling all along and hadn't realised it for what it was.

Paula Shepherd 19:29

Okay, this is really juicy stuff. And this is the stuff that you've said, Oh, my goodness, this has happened. This has this has evolved since the last time we've had a conversation. So going from I'm in this call, where I'm being psychologically manipulated, making this escape, deciding, you know what, I'm an atheist. I'm giving it all up. I don't want anything to do with any of that. I'm just me. There's nothing else to getting curious. From a spiritual Whoo side. I'm just gonna call it spiritual Wu to anyone that's listening. And I love a good I love Wu and I love spiritual. So how do you go from one end of the spectrum to let me just test this out? Let's see what this is like.

Jessie Shedden 20:19

Instead, definitely an evolution. Definitely. And I think everything should happen at your own pace. I remember the first time I spoke to Solera, if you're if you're aware of her, I'm pretty sure you are. She contacted me a year before. And she was like, oh, let's go and have a coffee chat. And I'm like, Whoa, who is this person? No, look what she does, I can't possibly go there. And then a year down the line, I'm working with her one to one and I'm loving it. And then there's still the side where I remember, I remember when I got my wake up call was like, you know, and it wasn't alone. I was like, does that mean I have to like embrace? I don't know, glitter and sparkles. And you know, all that fairy area? And I'm like, can I still be me? You know, the coach that shows up in denims? And is still very tangible? And they're like, Well, yeah, because you've been this person all along, you don't have to run out change anything. And I even remember my partner who was like, when I first worked with Sarah, who I think you've had on here, she was incredible. She took me to meet my guides. And I said to him, like I just letting you know, I'm going to be taken to be my guides. This is like a big thing for me. And he was like, Okay, do you think but don't tell me about it, because I get freaked out. And I'm okay. I respect that. But now, the more I'm talking about what I'm doing, he's really supportive, he still kind of like, and I'm like, I get it like, I would have been the same and you go into it at your own speed, I'm not a big, you know, I haven't got all my crystals laid out. And I don't see anywhere yet, or anything quite like that. But for me, it's not a you don't have a checklist of what makes you a Lightworker, a intuitive a channel, there's no, you have to measure up to all of this, and they look like this. And this is what they do in their life, you take the parts that resonate with you.

Paula Shepherd 22:16

And a lot of that I can understand and resonate with coming from a corporate background where everything was, like you said, it's it's black and white, you know, you did a good job, or you didn't do a good job. And to start to trust your gut more to really if people can, if people can't relate to channelling or guides, or you've had no experience with that. I think the easiest way for me was to consider listening to my gut feeling, right? The feeling or just intuition in general. And there's so many other places that ways that that shows up. But I but you have to you have to have some semblance of quiet in your own mind and not keep going and going and going just because that's what the routine is. You very beautifully, not easily, but very beautifully broke your routine and over time have been deconditioning yourself and allowing your own thoughts to permeate your mind versus taking on the thoughts of others. Do you feel like that had a lot of impact in your ability to receive and act on your intuitive thoughts and feelings?

Jessie Shedden 23:33

Massive? Massively. So yes, and I think the huge part there for me is in the trauma and the force of the patriarchy and what's forced upon us and you're channelled into black or white is you stop you doubt and you stop listening to your intuition and to your own voice. Because it's, you know, any anything that you tend to hear is a reflection of what you're outside. And you're taught to not trust yourself as well. But as you heal that trauma, your intuition and your voice starts to step forward. And that's when you can start to listen to when it was only you know, in the time since we've done these two recordings. I had to take like in December time, I took a huge step back. I remember very clearly and it was I think it was in the November that I had my session to meet my guides, and I was like, well, that still feels way outside of where I was. I was like, You know what, that was a really nice experience, but I don't feel like I and I wanted to say I was gonna say this to Sarah the other day. I don't feel like oh, yes, I saw them. I got the connection. I'm going to go back there. It wasn't like just snap, snap snap for me at all. There really was like a lot of trust involved. And then I went away and I did nothing more about it. And then in December, I remember the 10th of December they told me or I just had this really clear message come through. I just felt like I should not be at my desk for the rest of December. And I should just leave it Everything to do with work, put it all to one side and do nothing. And I was like, that's really odd, but okay, I'll accept it. And through December, although I had the most beautiful Christmas I've ever had, because I've always been kind of tainted up until now. And the like the, there was another part that was going on. For me that was really icky. And it was a lot of mire going on. And it was like what's going on here. And on reflection, throughout January, I started to see that the previous year, I had been, I've given all my power away to my coaches, and I've been listening to their voices, even though they had been saying to me, listen to your own what works best for you. And I'm like, I just been so used to going back to that place where I gave my power away, when just just tell me what to do. And I'll do it, which is not what we're supposed to do. And it was it was so wrong. So wrong, what I was doing was not aligned with who I was as a person. And the whole call to stop and put everything down was that wake up call that I had to bring things to an end to realign.

Paula Shepherd 26:07

Wow, it was like it was like cutting it off. And he had hitting the reset button or starting over from that point. But this idea that you gave yourself space to recognise what was no longer serving you, it is very difficult. When we're in a situation where people are telling us what to do, whether that's a job, or in your instance, growing up in a cult, where people are saying, here's how it should be, here's what you're supposed to be doing. And then all of a sudden, we are in a place where we have to decide what works for us. And us making the choice.

Jessie Shedden 26:43

And it's scary. It's scary being in that place. Right? It's like, it's so much easier to say to someone else tell me and I'll do it, than to have to go within and find out yourself.

Paula Shepherd 26:53

I see this come up a lot in business, because people want someone to tell them what they should do in order to hit the next level or gain success. And what you just brought up was really important is that even when there were people telling you to do it your way, you were having a really difficult time. Honouring that for yourself. And you were still looking for answers outside of yourself. Was that break what happened during that break that really helped you step in and recognise that so that you could move forward in a way that served you

Jessie Shedden 27:40

a lot of different things. And I think it's really, really important to understand that although I went through this, this whole feeling of a lot of resentment and kind of anger. At my coach, I had to realise that it wasn't, it was not a place to park blame at all, because I really, really wanted to believe that she could be the answer to all my problems, that she would make me something that she was doing it for other people. But I had to see through that that, you know, they had kept saying to me what's right for you do you know, do what serves you and I'm like, I would look at everything through their eyes, I was trying to make myself into them. And I was like, they would say what makes it easy for you. And I'd take what they were doing and try and add my bit to it. And it's not a question of that. And the only way for me personally was to go, Okay, I have to literally remove myself from all of this. I have to cease contact with my coach, I have to walk away from a lot of the people that were in that same group of people, not because I had any against them, but I needed the space to listen to myself. Because I was too easily being swayed by other people. And I don't know whether that's a typical thing that happens or whether I'm I'm particularly prone to that because of my upbringing, but I really had to get quiet and I have an incredible voice I have incredible creativity and power within me. But I was ignoring all of it for somebody else that I thought had more worth more qualifications than I did.

Paula Shepherd 29:13

Wow. And yet I look at you and I say wow, Jessie, you have tonnes of qualifications your life experience itself is a massive qualification, the the challenges the risks, the courage, the curiosity that you've had make you so powerful and a person that others could come to in as a coach to really discover themselves versus you telling them what to do

Jessie Shedden 29:40

right and and like, and I 100% agree with you and I see that but I also was easily giving it away at the same time as I was growing in my confidence. I was kind of like one step forward, two steps back and it was going Jesse you've got all this and knowing I had and see everything I've done and being wowed by it myself. I'm going to Why are you giving it away? You know why? Are you thinking that just because somebody else is, I don't know, further ahead than where you think you are in certain areas? Why are you giving that away, you know that this is the case. And it's really easy, I think really easy when you've been taught to doubt yourself, to, to give that power away and to have to remind yourself to come back to it. But also, there was a, there's a big piece that came through for me that I never want to fix anybody, and you just touched on it that I never want to fix anybody only have one inspire anybody, because it's their job to do their own work. And I think that's really important in coaching that we don't try and fix anybody. We don't try and do it for anybody. It's their job to do their own work, I would, I would sooner teach a person to fish than give them fish.

Paula Shepherd 30:51

Oh, my gosh, what a great, what a great little nugget that you just left right there. And the thing is, what you're what you're talking about is coaching really is about the other person and and I take a holistic perspective to no one's broken, we're all whole. And what happens, unfortunately, is I've seen a lot of people that have really great intentions become teachers versus coaches, and the industry does push people toward that direction of really trying to teach people a thing versus discover themselves, because it's not as sexy, right? It's not as tangible that

Jessie Shedden 31:27

it's not as tangible. And that's exactly what I fell into this year, as I was like, you know, give me the tangible and every fibre of my being was Jessie, this is so wrong. You want tangible marketing. But it's so wrong. It's not. And I think that's that's the the challenging pieces that people don't, they don't want cookie cutter, they don't actually want you just to pick this stuff up and put it on them. But they would like to see what it is they're signing up to. So it's that constant battle between us as in the kind of the expression of who we are. Does that make sense?

Paula Shepherd 32:01

Yes, it absolutely does, it does? Well, I think the way that you show up is incredibly authentic. And I know that's a buzzword, but you really every moment of authenticity is is you whether it's looking at you six months ago, or looking at you last month, looking at you now, you know, three months from now a year from now, you'll always be authentically you. But just evolving, right as yourself and using your voice in a more powerful and unique way based on that moment and your experience of what you've learned. And what I what I truly appreciate about you. And what you're sharing in this conversation is this idea of one doing things that feel bizarre, you know, whether it was escaping the cold or, or it's taking a break in the middle of December and going, I'm not going to do any more work, I'm going to step away because of the information overload that happens when we're on social media or running our business and trying to learn and, you know, into now to say I am trusting my intuition, to run my business, and live my life. Let's not forget that our business is just an appendage, and live your life in a way that is so fitting for you and the moment that you're in.

Jessie Shedden 33:32

Yeah, and I think I think that's, it's that's a really important point, because I always feel you've heard me before speak on earning our stories. And I think that I see a lot of fear around people wanting to share who they really are and what's happened. But as I say, if you have your own back, you can stand behind yourself in whatever you've done, because nobody's perfect. You know, I've done stuff in the past. But was it part of what I needed to do to get to where I am now? For sure. So I'm always gonna have my back in that sense not like somebody can turn around the throw that at me, because it's just my life path. Like nobody gets through this world without having had a few learning experiences, right?

Paula Shepherd 34:19

Absolutely. Oh my goodness. So Jessie, if someone wants to work with you, what can they expect from the experience with you?

Jessie Shedden 34:29

That's a really interesting one. Because I think if we go back to the channelling that comes in a lot, whether it's in my 90 minute sessions or six weeks of work, but you don't have to know what's happening. Talk to me like I'm a normal human being and it will come through I won't necessarily be saying to you, okay, I'm going to call on the guides now and then it comes. So you still get it whether you feel freaked out or not. You will still get the guidance that's meant to come your way without it being very much okay, let me get my crystals out and, and really be there for you Some that can't or aren't necessarily at that place yet. And I think that's been really important for me is that I want to show up in that way. But it also means that we do a hell of a lot in a very short space of time. Because we don't flip it around. We get to the points, there is no kind of bullshitting with me. And sometimes all you need is 90 minutes. And I've seen people just explode from that. Sometimes it's six weeks of me in Messenger all the time, because who wants once a week and life doesn't happen once a week? It happens all the time. And whether it's your personal or your business, is you. And that's the important part for me.

Paula Shepherd 35:44

So, are you working with people one on one primarily? Yes, yes. Wonderful, wonderful. So there are so many places, if you're listening, that you can find Jessie I'm going to link all of those in the show notes, whether it's her website, Jesse Shedden, comm Facebook, Instagram, she is very active on social media in a way that feels fun, and not like you're constantly being sold to. And you're going to learn a lot about her. She also has her memoir, tomorrow's not promised make today count and of course, the fluffy but love series. So there's tonnes of ways for you to connect with Jessie. If her story which I know it has inspired you to really own who you are in the moment and the season that you're in. Jesse, is there any any words of wisdom golden nugget that you want to leave the audience with as we're closing today?

Jessie Shedden 36:42

It's, it's something around up levelling. And I see a lot of people being very fearful about up levelling. And moving to the next chapter of that transitional journey. What I'm seeing a lot of at the moment is, the whole world is going through massive evolutions and up levels. And those that are moving on their instincts are just that bit ahead. And it's just, there are incredible things opening up. If you feel the call to uplevel. And to change in yourself in one of your operating systems to make it really tangible, then don't ignore it, go for it. If you need support, then ask for it. But this is not a time for playing small in any shape, or form. So much is being asked of us. And so much is needed from us that we are just sabotaging ourselves on the world at large if we keep ourselves where we are currently.

Paula Shepherd 37:50

Oh, that was like a gut punch. I feel it. I feel it. Trust your instincts. Trust yourself. Don't look to other people. Really trust yourself. Jessie, thank you. Thank you for coming back and doing this a second time. Thank you for being part of my world. I love seeing you show up on my social media feed. You're one person that I go back and look for all the time because I just know how authentic you are as a human. And I love seeing your evolution.

Jessie Shedden 38:19

Thank you. It's been a real privilege and honour to be connected with you too.

Paula Shepherd 38:25

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