Creating Soulful Supportive Spaces - Where Interior Design & Coaching Meet with Marie Roviello

Paula Shepherd Author

Marie combines her 30+ years of interior design, with her focus on energy work and mindset to create a space that reflects who you are, your values!

What do you feel when you first walk into your home or your work space? We have been taught to focus on how an area looks, but today’s guest, Marie Roviello, invites you to create spaces that feel good! She combines her 30+ years of interior design knowledge, with her focus on energy work and mindset to create a space that reflects who you are, your values and how you want to feel in each setting of your home or office.

In this episode we chat about:

Marie’s journey from commercial interior design to creating life altering, uplifting spaces.

The house fire that changed Marie’s perspective on life.

Spaces that heal and support your growth.

Slowing down and reflecting on your values.

Where interior design and coaching meet.

And so much more!

As an interior designer for 30+ years, Marie has worked with celebrity clients and brand names including The Four Seasons, Honda, PPG Aerospace, Sony Studios, Sugar in the Raw, Endeavor, The Wall Group, Kaiser Permanente, Steelcase, and more. Marie is an international best-selling co-author and an intuitive coach.

Marie believes that we can live in a place that lights us up on every level! Understanding the energy in your home and ultimately, your life is a magical catalyst for life-changing results. Her passion for holistic, uplifting environments has led Marie to combine 30+ years of interior design and architecture experience, environmental design, space and clutter-clearing, personal growth, and ancient energy modalities. Using these abilities, she has created a unique methodology that is the heart of intuitive interior design.

Connect with Marie!

www.marieroviello.com

https://www.facebook.com/groups/intuitiveinteriordesign/

www.instagram.com/interiordesign_LA

Timestamps:

(03:05) Marie shares her journey from interior design for celebrities and corporations to creating life altering, uplifting spaces with soul after a devastating house fire.

(05:30) Marie felt corporate interior design was soul-crushing and manufactured, not the creative outlet she desired to see.

(07:10) Marie shares the story of her house fire and how it changed her perspective on life and allowed her to create sensitive and supportive spaces to support her healing.

(14:14) Interior Design vs. Interior Decorating.

(16:46) Kitchen design, the centre of the home, an emotional sanctuary and the impact on your eating habits.

(19:45) Creating spaces that feel good and reflect your soul. Marie helps clients to slow down when designing their new spaces.

(21:20) The psychology behind materials and the responses they create in different personality types.

(24:47) Bringing energy into interior design, noticing limiting beliefs and what clients feel they deserve.

(26:00) The way you treat your space is a reflection of how you treat yourself in life and what you are not willing to deal with.

(31:00) Where interior design and coaching meet.

(35:06) Questions to ask yourself when creating a soulful and supportive space.

Transcript:

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

space, feel, kitchen, create, working, home, thought, cosy, painting, important, oompa loompa, life, realised, walls, fire, person, marie, place, question, happened

SPEAKERS

Marie Roviello, Paula Shepherd

Paula Shepherd 00:01

Hi, I'm Paula shepherd. I went to college to get a good job and make a lot of money. Back then, no one talked about doing what you love. And while I successfully climbed the corporate ladder, I felt like there was something missing. So I left the seemingly comfortable corporate world at 40 years old for the freedom of full time entrepreneurship. Today, I get to help ambitious women go from entrepreneur to competent CEO of their lives and businesses. I created this podcast to share what I've learned with you to make your journey just a little easier, and to connect you with other incredible business owners who took a chance on themselves and who they are becoming. So whether you're just getting started, are all in or just when you hear friendly voice. Come on in and sit with us. Now, let's dive in. Welcome to another episode of The confidence sessions. I am thrilled today to have with me, Marie Ravello. Marie had a devastating house fire back in 2017, which was a huge, huge kick in the butt for her. But before that she was interior designing for celebrities, and major corporations like the four seasons. So welcome today to the show, Marie.

Marie Roviello 01:28

Hey, thank you so much for having me.

Paula Shepherd 01:31

You're so welcome. And you know, anybody that is listening to this, if you could see Marie right now, she's amazing. She looks amazing. She looks fabulous. And your background is amazing, including your sweet little dog, nutmeg,

Marie Roviello 01:47

nutmeg. I'm Cody, I'm just like, when I work, I like to feel cosy.

Paula Shepherd 01:58

You'd like to feel cosy. And honestly, you helped me design in some capacity, the way that my office feels, which I would say is warm. And I don't know that I would use the word cosy necessary, necessarily, but it's a space that allows me to be creative. So over in the corner, I have a shea lounge. And that was a big thing for me when we were having that conversation. So remember, I noticed and I have noticed over the course of me following you and our relationship together, that you care very deeply about the way people feel in their space.

Marie Roviello 02:40

I do. I really do. To me, that's everything.

Paula Shepherd 02:46

Where did that stem from considering you started a long time ago, almost, or more than three decades ago? Working with corporations working with celebrities? I'm sure there are people listening going. If you were working with corporations, and you were working with celebrities, why are you not doing that now?

Marie Roviello 03:06

Hmm, good question. Um, it's, you know, it's one of those things that like, it was unplanned, and I felt like after my fire, going back to what I knew, just wasn't working anymore. You know, so I, I felt like I kept getting sort of, like, pushed into a direction that was very new for me. Um, so I had to explore that. And that part of that process for me was like, really digging deep, like, who am I, you know, what do I want? Who do I really want to work with? Like, what is my purpose here? Is it just to create, like, beautiful, amazing, you know, environments like workspaces for these, you know, huge corporations that are like, you know, 300,000 square feet? Or is it really to work with individuals is it to work with like, the super wealthy who, like, I'm not even working with that person, I'm working with their assistant just to make the place beautiful, or is it like to really, like, do something that helps shift people's lives who's you know, that like, where they, they get to know themselves better, you know, and they create something for themselves that that really uplifts their spirit. And so that's what I was, you know, and I don't want that to sound like a canned thing. You know what I mean? It's just, it really is. It's such a deep question for me. I needed to like I needed to follow what what felt right for my like, for me, my soul, my purpose and my mission.

Paula Shepherd 04:53

Because you're such a creative person, and I've, I would imagine not knowing anything about interior design. that you want to be creative. But when you're working with corporations or getting direction, essentially from a celebrities, assistant, or whoever it might be, that a lot of that gets stifled, I would imagine. And and I'd love for you to share a little bit about that, that it's isn't that it was felt transactional because the way you described it almost sounded that way.

Marie Roviello 05:30

It feels it? Well, yes. Because what happened is, is I actually went and I worked with two architecture firms consulting, and this was after my fire, and I was working on, you know, projects, like, the Mayo Clinic and, you know, other big names, and, you know, like a construction, a major construction companies offices, and I just felt like it was so less, it's really becomes more, I mean, even though it can be very creative, you know, it's very corporate. So it's it, there's, you know, there's, there's strict timelines, you know, you're working with a team of 72 people, you know, you're working on Yeah, you're working with contractors, project managers, architects, you know, I mean, there's, you know, the, the, also the, the representatives from that corporation, the Mayo Clinic, there's tonnes of meetings, and you're, you're basically constantly plugging in, you know, timelines and, and tasks and making sure that you're reaching these goals. And so even though like I'm being creative in the background, it just kind of like, it just it takes it takes something out of it for me. You know, it's it was kind of soul crushing. Like I didn't really, it wasn't, it wasn't feeding my soul.

Paula Shepherd 07:01

Was your house fire? What changed that perspective for you?

Marie Roviello 07:05

Totally. Yeah.

Paula Shepherd 07:08

And I've heard a bit of the story, but I'm wondering if you would be willing to share what happened and then what came after

Marie Roviello 07:18

I basically came home one night to my home on fire. I lived in a building so I didn't know that it was my place that was on fire. But people were running down the stairs saying, hey, the buildings on fire are screaming, running out. And I thought like, this is ridiculous. This is a Saturday night someone must have pulled you know, the emergency you know, the fire alarm by who knows. So as I was getting closer and closer to my place, the smell was getting stronger the smell of smoke until I realised that it was my place. And I thought oh my gosh, I lost all my stuff. All my animals that forget my stuff. I didn't even care about that. But it was like my life. And my animals have three animals. So I actually touch the doorknob wasn't hot. And without even thinking I ran in and it was traumatising.

Paula Shepherd 08:23

I imagine it was

Marie Roviello 08:25

really traumatising. So, but the good thing is that I ran in and I saved all three my animals before anybody got there, I'm glad I got home when I did. And in that, like in that split second moment, like I was able to relate to so many more people who talk about these, you know, situations where like, your adrenaline just kicks in, and you don't even know who you are anymore. There was nothing prior to that experience. Where I, I I could relate to that, like no matter how bad things got, you know, like whether it's car accident, there's, like, I just couldn't relate to that. And and when that happened, I realised that the only thing that mattered was life. And so I went in, because everything else is replaceable. And so I went in and I got my animals. And I was like, you know, totally. I don't even know what to say. I was totally traumatised by that experience for a while without even knowing it. And it changed my priorities. It changed my priorities. I had gotten really sick afterwards. And it really made me dig in deep like you know, what am I really here to do? You know, what am I who am I here to help? You know, what is my purpose? That was what I kept asking Hang on. And what I found was that it took me about two years of asking, and what I found was that it was right under my nose the whole time. It was stuff that I was doing for myself to heal, and things that I had done prior to that, that I just never really talked about, I didn't share with other people.

Paula Shepherd 10:22

Were some of those things.

Marie Roviello 10:25

Um, it was like, really, really, kind of sensitising myself, to my space by I'm really questioning at times, like, why something was there? And what it represented in my life, you know, was it my past? Was it something that I thought I should become? I should be? Was it truly a reflection of who I am? Or was it a reflection of my belief systems or my past my childhood. And so when I actually began bringing things back into my home again, after postfire, I did so with a lot more intention. So I'm very sensitive to energy. So that's something that's like kind of a little hard to explain and what i in terms of like, what I do and what I did for, for my clients, but it was always there in the background, I just never talked about it. And so I had this gift of being able to like help them shift the energy in their space and kind of see them for who they truly are, like this gem, this diamond, and kind of help them remove the crud from around the diamond. So they could really see who they are at their core. And like what instead of them sort of creating something from a place of status, or just because it looks nice or feeling like they don't really know who they are. And so before I actually got into design with my clients, it was almost like a counselling. Not that I want to be a psychologist or anything like that. But there was this sort of like, counselling that happened because I wanted to get to know them. I didn't want to come in and say oh, yeah, you know, we're just gonna get rid of all this stuff, we're gonna knock down these walls, it's gonna look beautiful. Go away, let me make it look nice, you know, gorgeous for you. It was like, No, I want this to be a true reflection of who you are.

Paula Shepherd 12:44

Hmm. Well, one, first of all, the this your story, it almost feels like you were living on autopilot, which so many of us do, we go to work, and we do the job and we come home. And, you know, just this is just our life and day in and day out. And that's just how it is. And then this moment really shook things up for you and made you realise what was important. And also recognise over the course of that two years that you were taking action in ways that you weren't able to fulfil in your day to day job. And you're able to bring that to people now. I think one of the biggest things that I didn't really understand was the difference between what you do and maybe, you know, when we're talking about interior design versus an interior decorator and really knowing what the differences there is, it was important to me when you and I first started having that conversation to know, how do I know that I'm working with the right person that can help me design my space in a way that feels like me, or feels comfortable or feels like a space that I want to be in? What what is the difference there?

Marie Roviello 14:08

Um, well, that's a big question. Well, there's always the individual, right, every person is very different, you know, the different personalities there. You know, we each have our own strengths, you know, some people are more in tune than others. And some people just have a natural talent, you know, as well, like, you could go to school forever and maybe not be that great of a designer, you know, and you could just kind of have a natural talent. There's that too.

Paula Shepherd 14:42

I know that you mentioned the difference between interior design versus just like an interior decorators. I'm thinking like the old my mom used to have. They were like some kind of interior decorating party and I can't remember what it was called interior designs. There was like this old company and they had crazy pick shirts and everybody would buy the pictures. And it was just so you could decorate your space in this great way. And, you know, I think having the education and having the practical is important, right, you I know previously also mentioned that a lot of the time the industry is focused on the space and all the external elements, right? Like they're not focused on the person, they're not focused on the energy of the space. And a great example of that would be somebody going to work and coming home and going, my house is such a mess. It's always a disaster, and complaining about it.

Marie Roviello 15:38

Yeah. So Oh, my gosh, there's, there's like, so much to unpack here. But let me say, um, so. So I think I've really feel strongly that it's important that somebody has a more formal education, because there's so much that we learn, that isn't taught, you know, say, if someone's a decorator at a retail store, they're really sales people that are selling furniture. And there's nothing wrong with that. But there's a big difference. And there's a lot of mistakes that, you know, I've seen happen over the years where like, somebody might recommend, you know, let's, let's put, you know, this wall covering behind this, you know, freestanding fireplace, you know, it's like, no, you're gonna burn the house down, you know, something's gonna catch on fire friends of mine who are decorators are like, let's take this wall out, you know, like, you've got to consult with a structural engineer, you know, you have to make sure that you can do these things. Basically, if you're, if you're an interior designer, and you have a degree, you can work on commercial projects. Okay, corporate projects for corporate brands.

Paula Shepherd 16:46

Okay, so let's talk about by the time this airs, you will have done a workshop on your kitchen. And I've loved looking at your content around this workshop, because you talk a lot about how this is kind of the centre space and how it changes your eating habits and all the things that nobody really thinks about. If you were to walk into somebody's home, would your kitchen be the or the kitchen be the first place that you would start with?

Marie Roviello 17:18

Yes, typically it is. And so there's so the kitchen, so when you go to buy a home, where do you go first, the kitchen, you want to look at the kitchen, and you want to look at the bathrooms, those are the two areas that are going to give you like the most bang for your buck, like in terms of resale values. So that's like the, that's like number one. The second thing is that, that the kitchen has become like the living space. In the modern world, it's not, it's not a place where we just go and cook. You know, it's where it's where everything happens. And it's become a bit of like, a catch all, and an emotional sanctuary as well. Like, you know, you need to kind of take some space, you know, some people go to the bedroom, there's also the kitchen, you might go and make something to eat, you have, you know, you're gonna have a place, you're gonna go and sit down and talk with someone about something important in the kitchen. You know, so the kitchen is like a really central part of our life. There's also like, there's so much there in terms of like, the different the different types of tasks that we do now, in the kitchen, like whether it's the kids doing homework, or, you know, people, you know, you want cook or hanging out. And so we really need to be able to like capture, like a place, create a space where we can capture that. You know that that essence so that people can feel comfortable being there, and they don't feel like they're doing something sort of in the wrong type of space. If that makes sense.

Paula Shepherd 18:59

It does. And the kitchen is always the first place. And for my home that was the first place that I went when I just want an open kitchen that I have space in where people can hang out around the kitchen island when I have parties and just have space to move right and to get to know each other. I didn't want this little teeny tiny place. But I also used to have a kitchen that had a lot of appliances sitting over the countertop. So I just threw it all up there. I needed access to everything right away. And the more that I've cleared out that space, the better I feel. And I would say with your support. That's how I feel about my office. I had I not had a conversation with you in the beginning. I'd have purple walls. They'd be reflecting on my face, I'd look like an oompa loompa I didn't have all of these things because to me that felt like oh, I love this colour and this is what I like, but not really thinking about all the other things and how is that going to reflect on me? And how is that going to make me feel when I show up and really opened my eyes to things that I hadn't considered that, honestly, yes, they were coming from a design perspective, but they were also really considering what I want to show up in that space. How was I, how was I going to feel in that space, not to do what I normally do and what many people do, which is rush to get that one room looking perfect. And go, I'm going to start small, and I know what I want it to look like. But it all doesn't have to happen today.

Marie Roviello 20:38

Exactly, I actually help guide people to like, slow down. So that they're because usually it becomes a sprint, like, they just get it in their brain. I've been waiting for so long I want to do this kitchen, I want it done now. And they'll even they'll even like, you know, they'll settle for, for things that they don't really love, just to get it done now. And I'm like, No, it's better to plan ahead and wait. And as far as like the kitchen is concerned, it's, you know, I just feel like there isn't enough family gatherings around the dinner Dinner table anymore. You know, everybody's so scattered people are everybody's on their phones. And so I just I love the idea of like bringing the family back to a central place where everybody feels good. But there's all of these different design cues, like a lot of kitchens are not designed in a way to actually create warmth, and bring people together, there's, there's this psychology of these different materials that cause different responses in different personality types. And one of them for example, if like, you know, things are like really slick, high gloss, even sharp, it, it triggers like the fight or flight response. But we don't know that, you know, we just think it looks great. And it causes anxiety. So it might look really beautiful. But it might create some discord as opposed to using more natural or natural looking finishes and materials that create a sense of warmth, and actually trigger things like your parasympathetic nervous system to calm and relax you. And so I think so many people are, you know, we're all like looking at HGTV and thinking like, Oh, I'm on Pinterest, and I want that it looks great. And, you know, and then we're just sort of like, alright, project done, check that off the list. Without really knowing what you need in order to thrive in that space. What does your family need? In order to come together in that space? What kinds of things are you actually doing in that space? Other than cooking? You know? And how can a designer begin to, like support that and also help, you know, create some, some calm through, you know, whether it's lighting or materials have you ever noticed, like, for example, you go into one store, and you try on clothes, and you look, you feel like you feel fabulous, and then you go into another store. And you're like, every time I'm looking in the mirror in the store, I just look horrible. And a lot of it has to do with lighting. So when you go through like getting back to your, your previous question, when you go through rigorous training, as an interior architect, interior designer, you're basically learning you're learning things like how to create, how to enhance sales in a retail space. That can be through lighting. How do you create more productivity in a workspace when you're working for a corporate brand? They want to know that and this isn't like, you know, theory out there. This is stuff that's like been studied. Because they're investing millions of dollars, they want to know, like, is this gonna help push the needle more in a particular direction, when you go to really good restaurants. The ambiance is great, the food looks great, you know, whereas if you go to like, a, you know, a fast food joint, the lighting is horrible, you look horrible, the food looks horrible, because they kind of they want to get you in and out, you know, they don't care about those things. So there's just there's so much more that goes into it. And then I also love blending like the, the energy aspect of it too.

Paula Shepherd 24:44

How do you do that? How do you blend the energy in,

Marie Roviello 24:47

like getting to know the person by understanding so there's, there's certain visual cues, there's energetic things that I pick up on, and I also listen to their words. The words that they use to describe their space. So I typically have them do a walkthrough. And I just listen. And then I asked certain questions about how a certain space makes them feel in their home, or a certain item makes them feel, because it's really getting beyond the visual. And when when I start to, like, unlock this, you know, their belief system, you know, usually like the limiting beliefs that they have around what they feel they deserve, you know, what kind what they saw in their childhood, what makes them feel good, and what doesn't feel good, and why, then we get to the core of who they truly are. And what it is that they need to feel whole, as opposed to continually making these little, like sacrifices like shoulds, because of the way we want to go, the way we want to present ourselves to others in the world. And so this is a very physical way of seeing it, you know, we see that through mindset, and different therapy, and even in our businesses, but like, for example, I had, I had a client recently reached out. And then I worked with on this was more specific, like a decluttering type of situation. So we did a walkthrough, and there was one room where she just did not want to open the door. And I, you know, convinced her to open the door and it became a catch all it was, it was a total mess. And she just didn't want to deal with it. So she actually left it for months. But before I get to that there was a painting that I spotted. And when I asked her about the painting, she just she she kind of like froze up, it was behind something. And I said, Hey, you know what, what's going on over there. And what I came to find was that she part of the reason why she wasn't dealing with that room was because she had a fiance that passed. And he made that painting. And so there was a there's a healing process that needed to happen. Um, so we worked on like, what are we going to do with the painting. And then she decided, you know, she needed some time. And she recently came back and said, she actually went into the room, and started clearing the room. And she found this connection between how she was showing up in her business, and what she was ignoring in her life, and how that was basically connected to that room. So she thought that like she could just kind of close the door on, you know, a particular area of her life, and not deal with it, and then just focus on the things that like made her happy, and felt really good. And, you know, and we're easy. And she realised that there were so many things like just not happening in her business, because she wasn't dealing with some of her blind spots. Aside from the situation with, you know, the fiancee, it was just we all have blind spots. And so I see these going on over here. But I see these these blocks that are in people's spaces that are just think they're manifested. They've manifested physically. And a lot of times they wind up being like, money blocks, they're just negative blocks that have to be cleared in order to allow more positive energy.

Paula Shepherd 29:02

I love it. No, but what a great story and a great metaphor and representation of what happens when we allow our space around us to reflect what's actually happening on the inside and how that how that shows up. And even I feel like have you said anybody ever if you're listening or Marie even for you ever been given something and felt like oh, this my father gave this to me or my aunt who I'm close to her or my grandmother or my best friend gave this thing to me and it's some Knick Knack or painting or something to go in your home and you think well, it's not really me, but I feel like I have to keep it. And so that's, that's what I hear you talking about is people basically either one misrepresenting themselves in their home because As they're taking on what others want them to do, and that's how their space is showing up, and it's not reflecting who they are. Or the other thing is really having this deep rooted guilt, or you refer to them as blocks and coming from a holistic perspective and saying, This is what has manifested in my physical space that I want to feel warm and welcoming. And I want to feel received into it in a way that feels good. And not in a way where I am hiding from it, or OS trudging and sticking my head in the sand and doing nothing about it. When I imagined when she started to clear that room out that the rest of her You said her business, but also her life, and this other spaces around her probably felt significantly different.

Marie Roviello 30:53

Oh, yeah, so much lighter. And it was like a huge light bulb moment, you know, where it's like, wow, it's all connected, that our external, you know, our, our environment is a reflection of what's happening inside of us. We can't hide from it, you know, and you're so right, like, the, we have so many things in our space that, you know, this is it just goes deeper than like sparking joy, you know, and I love Marie Kondo. But it's like, you know, things are really emotional, you know, we either we're either on autopilot, and we're just getting stuff because it's seasonal, and it looks nice, and we placed around us, and it has no real meaning,

Paula Shepherd 31:33

and it's on clearance, and it's on

Marie Roviello 31:35

clearance. And, or, you know, just has no meaning. So I'd like to, you know, I like to create these sort of, like, if they're like visual positive affirmations, because your home should feed you. And oftentimes, when we go out to buy things, you know, we're just either collecting stuff, or we're out there or on Amazon, because we've been triggered, we don't feel good enough in our space, you know, we, we want it to look nice, people are coming over, you know, we got into an argument with the husband or this or that, and we just, you know, fly off and go to Target and then come back with a bunch of stuff and figure, like, I'll just find a place for this stuff, you know, I like it, I'm gonna find a place for it. And so it's, you know, we create these species around us that are really unintentional. And most of the time, it's, you know, through like what you said, you know, like, something's been given to us, we don't really like it, it's not a reflection of us, we have this guilt, we don't know what to do with it. And I coach people through that, you know, it's, it's, it's a process of, really I don't want to say like, owning who you are, you know, it's, it's really coming into who you are getting in alignment with your values, and what's important to you. And setting some boundaries, like healthy boundaries, not, you know, this is not like, Oh, this is all about me, and I'm gonna have a, you know, a gorgeous space and the heck with all this stuff, I'm getting rid of it, you know, there's ways to deal with, with stuff like that where you know, something is, is in memory or given to you, you know, there's some coaching around that, whether it's forgiveness or knowing that the memories are within you, and not in the actual object. And

Paula Shepherd 33:36

so, oh, I love that the memories are in you and not the actual object it I had a, a an ornament that a friend of mine that I worked with years ago, passed away, tragically, and it broke, and it was glass, and it couldn't replace it. And my sister created one for me with a little string that said, it's a memory, it's the memory, not the thing. And I was like that, that just really reminded me of that moment. It it's so true. And so there's a lot of round mindfulness and really looking at your space from our conversation about what do I want this to feel like? How do I want this to feel if it doesn't feel like this? Now, what do I want it to feel like? Why do I want it to feel that way? Who am I and is that reflected here? And for some people who maybe have a spouse or a partner who are asking to themselves, well, how do I do that in a way that honours that other person? There's ways to work with Marie. I know one of those is you do have a course you do work with people in other capacities. And I will put all of the links to do that in the show notes so that people can reach out to you. But if someone is listening, and they're wondering, wow, I didn't I don't even know where to start. So before I ever decorate before I ever changed my space before I ever Declutter. What are maybe Two or three questions that they should be asking themselves when it comes to their space.

Marie Roviello 35:06

I think the first one is how does it make you feel? I think the second one is what are your thoughts like start paying attention to your thoughts, and your language around your space? Like when you walk into your home? Not only how does it make you feel but what do you think? Is it like, Ah, I'm home? This is, this feels really good to me. Or is it like, I can't wait until I get, you know, usually will focus on the negative things like oh, I can't wait to like replace the floor, you start darting around, looking at the things that aren't working, pay attention to that. Your your verbal language around your space, because you're bringing that energy into your space, that negative energy even if you have good intentions. And, and also allowing yourself the permission to ask for help. I think as women, we we feel that we need to do it all. And especially when it comes to the home that we need to like have it all figured out. You know, nobody, a lot of times, people don't, they don't learn these things. It's like you just learn what you learn from your mother, she does the best that she can. But there's there's just so much more. I think that can be supportive when you work with somebody who's you know, who has experience.

Paula Shepherd 36:33

It definitely makes all all the difference. Like I said, otherwise I'd have purple walls. And every time I show up on video, I would look like an Oompa Loompa. And probably not be very happy with, with what I with what the space is that I've created. And I love the eye aspect of mindfulness. I really love that you bring a holistic approach to what feels and what has always felt to me like something that was reserved for people who only had the money to be able to afford it felt very luxury. And you're bringing this back to a place where it's available to anyone. This this is available to anyone and everyone should have the opportunity to change the way that they feel when they come home. Yes. So I appreciate so much that you've been here. Thanks for sharing your story with us, Marie, where's the number one space that you'd like people to connect with you?

Marie Roviello 37:33

Hmm, I think right now, it would be probably Facebook.

Paula Shepherd 37:37

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